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PacShady
PacShady
Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 25 2008, 7:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 7:06 PM EDT
It's clear that people have a major problem with keeping to the speed limit, and no matter how great the punishment or how high the fine is for speeding, idiots will continue to break the law and put others at risk. Fact is, for punishment to be effective it needs to be delivered each and every time unwanted behaviour occurs, which is just not possible without having a speed camera on every street (which would cost billions, possibly trillions).

The technology exists now that cars can be fitted with computer devices which use GPS to determine what the speed limit is on the current section of road the vehicle is on, and lock the top end speed to that maximum. I propose that all new cars sold in Australia have these devices fitted as standard, rigged in such a way that any tampering will either lock the car down outright (not move anywhere), or lock to have a maximum speed of 60km/h, to prevent the worst of these road criminals from circumventing the system. I also propose that the Government allow a rebate/subsidy and reward system for all older cars to have the same system fitted, for instance give all those who retrofit their cars with the device an extra three years free on their licence, or $200 free fuel, or 1 year free rego, etc. to encourage all Australians to retrofit the system to their cars.
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Andy38
1. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 26 2008, 3:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 3:21 PM EDT
So the government is going to know everywhere you drive?

There are also scenarios when it would be necessary to speed.

I do agree that cameras are pointless I just don't think this is the answer.
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PacShady
PacShady
2. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 26 2008, 5:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 5:51 PM EDT
"So the government is going to know everywhere you drive?

There are also scenarios when it would be necessary to speed.

I do agree that cameras are pointless I just don't think this is the answer."
No no, the devices don't transmit any information for anyone to know where you are. They use the information solely to regulate your top end speed, they don't store it or transmit it. There is no issue of privacy with these devices.

And besides the services (fire/ambo/police), who else has situations where they need to drive faster than the speed limit? And by "need" I don't mean "I'm late for work, I have to go fast," or "I hope I get to the pub before it shuts." If you're in a hurry to get somewhere, you either leave earlier or you deal with being late, simple as that. I'd rather be late than dead.
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Posted Anonymously
3. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 27 2008, 9:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2008, 9:05 PM EDT
Yes, Yes, this device might be used INITIALLY for only top speed, but this neccessarily needs to know exactly where you are so that the local speed limit can be assessed.
But this is the thin edge of the wedge.
The technology enables (very easily) the following ...
Engine disablement upon pursuit of the law and upon expiration of registration.
Location and time recording.
Tracking for security purposes (remember the Government deems security more important than freedom).
Control, control, control - where will it end?
This, imo, is a VERY BAD IDEA.
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Posted Anonymously
4. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 29 2008, 2:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 2:16 AM EDT
"Yes, Yes, this device might be used INITIALLY for only top speed, but this neccessarily needs to know exactly where you are so that the local speed limit can be assessed.
But this is the thin edge of the wedge.
The technology enables (very easily) the following ...
Engine disablement upon pursuit of the law and upon expiration of registration.
Location and time recording.
Tracking for security purposes (remember the Government deems security more important than freedom).
Control, control, control - where will it end?
This, imo, is a VERY BAD IDEA."
The only one of these that has any real merit as a potential issue is the location and time recording part. The rest, well let's be honest, the only people who have anything to fear from them is criminals and those who flout the law. And I don't think anyone can argue that someone like that has more rights to "privacy" (read: anonymous lawbreaking) than, say, a child who loses their parents or even their own life because some idiot lunatic was speeding and crashed into them, especially if said person was "under pursuit of the law".

Now, as for location and time recording, I do agree that it would definitely not be great for everyone's cars to be monitored in such a way. However, it would be a good way of being able to track down stolen cars etc. A blanket monitoring system, not good, but the ABILITY to trace a car's whereabouts is definitely something that carries at least some merit in certain situations.

Fact is, something needs to be done with lunatics on our roads. Everyone shouts "EDUCATION, EDUCATION!" but they've been educating for years and the problem is arguably WORSE than it used to be.

Don't knock control. Without control, we'd have anarchy, and until the human race matures anarcy is just plain dangerous and stupid.
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Andy38
5. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Mar 29 2008, 6:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 6:01 AM EDT
"The rest, well let's be honest, the only people who have anything to fear from them is criminals and those who flout the law."

One day something you like to do will be illegal, I hope remember this sentiment then.
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Posted Anonymously
6. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Nov 19 2008, 8:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 8:10 PM EST
This technology is currently being trialled with learner cars and it is an idea I had along time ago, whether it is based on using gps or simple radio signal transmitted when entering traffic zones.

I am sure the technology would be simple enough to run without real-time tracking of cars but imo I would like to see the ability to track cars for a number of reasons to do with safety and security.
Examples.
-Stolen cars, especially car jacking cases where children have been in the back seat.
-Solving cases, robberies, hit and runs, kidnappings or shootings where cars have been seen (or not), being used to track cars at the scene.
-People lost in the wilderness, being able to locate a hikers car instantly to start a search location.

I would have no problem with the police knowing where my car is at all times, its not like they would have any idea what I am doing, just where I'm going. Its not like they could use it to give me a speeding ticket seeing as though that would be limited anyway :)
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Posted Anonymously
7. RE: Fit Cars With GPS-Based Speed Limiting Devices
Nov 19 2008, 8:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 8:14 PM EST
In regards to who else needs to drive fast except the 000 services, there are some emergency cases where people need to drive people to the hospital rather than waiting for an ambulance. There would need to be a manual over-ride system built in, whether or not it sends a signal showing the over-ride asking for a please explain would be a good idea.

BTW I do like the remote engine cutting system if used in cases like stolen cars or car chases.
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