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Forgiveness
Mar 5 2008, 9:47 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 5 2008, 9:47 PM EST
On behalf of the non aboriginal people the government has said sorry to the aboriginal people for the stolen generation.

Now on behalf of the aboriginal people the government should forgive all those non-aboriginal folk that nicked land and babies from the aboriginines.

Having thus said "sorry" and "I forgive you" on our collective behalf the government will have reconciled us and we can all live in harmony and peace as one people. We can have an annual public holiday to commemorate the moment.
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1. RE: Forgiveness
Mar 6 2008, 4:16 AM EST | Post edited: Mar 6 2008, 4:16 AM EST
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2. RE: Forgiveness
Mar 8 2008, 10:14 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 8 2008, 10:14 PM EST
This seems good to me, so far. I think it is important to notice these political situations:
1. Average Aboriginal community sentiment toward mainstream Australia: suspicion that they are discriminated against mainly based on there race + "mainstream Australians don't care about us" attitude
2. Some Mainstream Australian attitudes(ESP. the Howard vote base): suspicions about "reconciliation" "I can't argue with the Aboriginal Community without being branded a 'racist' ". + "I didn't harm any aboriginals but thay want me to feel guilty"
I'm no expert, so I may be a little off.. anyway : - )
Forgiveness "I won't hold the past against you anymore , for MY OWN SAKE and yours" can lessen the suspicions that interfer with good politics and lead to good policy. Thanks for listening. I hope I'm not talking crap!
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3. RE: Forgiveness
Mar 9 2008, 9:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 9 2008, 9:05 PM EDT
Your points are interesting but it tells me that you do not know the history of Aboriginal Australia after colonisation from an Aboriginal person's perspective. They have had to endure a lot from laws based on their race and were not even considered citizens until 1967 so they had no say in their lives. If you look into the history of Aboriginal communities they couldn't get married, attend their relatives funerals, travel, work or see their children unless they had persmission. Every aspect of their lives was controlled by the government. Suspicions of mainstream Australians may well have developed from some of these reasons. Secondly your comment that "I didn't harm any Aboriginals but they want me to feel guilty'. We do not want you to feel guilty but that you acknowledge that it did happen, just like the Jews were slaughtered by the Nazi's this is recognised worldwide, but little is known about the massacres that occurred with whole tribes being slaughtered to give way for farm lands and progress. Little is known in the wider community of children being removed from families to be put in homes or foster care (based solely on the colour of the skin) and who were told their parents were dead or didn't want them. Our children are being taught more about American and European history than our own. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

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4. RE: Forgiveness
Mar 10 2008, 12:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 10 2008, 12:50 AM EDT
For somebody that claims superior knowledge of history you are seriously hooked on modern mythology. Aboriginies got neither the vote nor citizenship in 1967, both having been achieved at earlier times. In fact aborigines got Australian citizenship at the same time as everybody else (1948).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_referendum,_1967_(Aboriginals)

"It is frequently stated that the 1967 referendum gave Aboriginal people Australian citizenship and that it gave them the right to vote in federal elections. Neither of these statements is correct. Aboriginal people became Australian citizens in 1948, when a separate Australian citizenship was created for the first time (before that time all Australians were "British subjects")."

It is ironic that people that otherwise champion things like the anti discrimination act will readily tolerate an overtly racist constitution. It seems that people persist with the dream of an all seeing, all knowing, all benevolent government in spite of extensive history to the contrary. If such government ever really existed, or ever could exist we would hardly need a constitution anyway.
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