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1. RE: Population control
Mar 5 2008, 7:36 PM EST
Abolishing the $4K thing sounds good, but the other stuff is pretty unacceptable.
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2. RE: Population control
Mar 11 2008, 8:19 AM EDT
Australia's internal population growth is not high. It is barely above replacement levels. To tackle population in Australia, immigration needs to be lowered. Also, those in power need to be sure that a steady population can supportt itself. In the past, politicians have always depended on a larger future population. Cheers, Dale 1 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. RE: Population control
Mar 21 2008, 5:23 PM EDT
Politicians will not tackle population control as they are terrified of the reaction of religious groups. The Catholics and their “every sperm is sacred” attitude, and Muslims with their “take over the world by out-breading the infidels” attitude are the scourge of the planet.
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4. RE: Population control
Mar 22 2008, 2:55 AM EDT
Yep, but the problem will only get worse as the population grows up with further religious values. While our immigration occurs from strongly religious countries then the prevalence of these views are just going to get stronger. I don't think people will become more aware as the population grows either. Population growth occurs too slowly. People adjust to the what is available in their own time. We just need to look at the overpopulated cities in Asia to see this happening. People adjust to living in cities with a high density of people. Cheers, Dale 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Population control
Mar 25 2008, 3:07 AM EDT
I think this is one of the most ridiculous ideas. Yes, it's understandable that we need a way to stop over population, however, this isn't the way to do it.Ok, simple, put yourself in a woman's shoes, imagine the possible ways of having a child, you get things such as rape, or even accidental pregnancy. What about age, if a girl was 13, was raped, and found out she was pregnant and was against abortion, is it me, or is she going to need all the help she can get? There is so many scenarios where a woman becomes pregnant and can't afford to look after the child, this is where the baby bonus comes in. I do however find it disgusting that new born's are being left in hospitals and the mothers are going out to buy their big plasma screen TV's, but not all women do this, and that's exactly what you need to think about here, some women actually need the help. Instead of the baby bonus idea, why not the Baby Bonus "VOUCHER" idea, so women who want to have a baby for the sake of family etc, still have some description of help, with the vouchers, she would only be able to buy things for her child. But I mean a vasectomy, or having tubal ligation is unacceptable, I mean, its IRREVERSIBLE, what if that person does it "just" for the money, wouldn't it be just as bad? That person will look back and wish they hadn't done that because now they can't have kids, and then they will blame it on the government. 1 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Population control
Mar 25 2008, 5:39 AM EDT
Anyone who either has kids or gets sterilized based on a tiny financial incentive is a moron.Unfortunately there are plenty of morons. "What about age, if a girl was 13, was raped, and found out she was pregnant and was against abortion, is it me, or is she going to need all the help she can get?" Has she got a family, friends, charitable support, the assets of the asshole who raped her? These are the appropriate ways to obtain support. 2 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Population control
Mar 29 2008, 3:35 AM EDT
In reference to the girl being raped, what if her family was for abortion and basically banished her from the family because she won't do against "their" wishes. Not all families are supportive, and not all women know who rape them you know? Often young females are basically "disowned" because they have become pregnant. Only very few families are supportive, not to mention, a lot of families can barely afford to look after themselves. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: Population control
Apr 2 2008, 7:26 AM EDT
You seemed to have completely missed the point. The human population is 6,665,000,000 and growing exponentially. We have governments in this country actively promoting population increase in Australia. Planet earth connot sustain the current growth rate. Look at the big picture instead of concernining yourself with some ficticious 13 girl who has been raped, some unwanted pregnacy, or whether someone will regret a decision they make in life.
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9. RE: Population control
Jun 8 2008, 9:37 PM EDT
"Remove the $4,000 baby bonus given for the birth of a child.Gosh, how about the "Soylent Green" solution and give all the olds $4000 to off themselves in nice suicide facilities? Australia's population isn't a problem, it's everywhere else! The three most populous countries in the world are neighbors and they might just decide to move in. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: Population control
Jun 9 2008, 7:58 AM EDT
If they did decide to move in, a larger population is not going to help us. At the moment the environmental impact is the far greater concern and this is going backward the faster we populate the country. cheers, Dale 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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11. RE: Population control
Jun 23 2008, 11:21 PM EDT
My only comment on this pathetic subject is "no comment"
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12. RE: Population control
Aug 13 2008, 9:57 PM EDT
I believe what is really needed is an information campaign, but not just at the local level (ie, Australia). There is a movement, VHEMT (Voluntary Human Extinction Movement) from the US. The guy (Les Knight) is slightly extreme, but in the end it's probably something of the sort that is needed. He's got some pretty good arguments too.If people hear about it, talk about it, then the information and awareness of the problem will grow and more people may choose not to have kids. I don't think any other way could be both acceptable and have some impact. The key is to have a well argumented approach, not some empty 'stop having kids' slogan that won't get anyone listening. Also, we've got to remember that the only reason why any group supports having kids is because the children of their members (say, a catholic family) will most likely be follow them too, and that means that the Church keeps people following it and maintains its power. Look around you at other groups! Even politicians have to consider this since their electors are the same people! Can you EVER see anything encouraging people NOT to have kids? (except online but even there, there isn't a wealth of information). It's up to each one of us to get the debate in the streets. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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13. RE: Population control
Mar 22 2009, 8:39 PM EDT
what about infant vasectomy, and when youre older you reverse the vasectomy when you want to knock her up? See if its safe to cut at such a young age, if the tubes will grow and all, and then if the reversal can be preformed. Entice people with a tax right-off for being an infertile male, and perhaps people might find the relief enough of a reason to get the procedure. Its a tax right off, not a law, shouldnt be too upsetting.
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