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DoubleThinkBlog |
Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 25 2008, 7:34 PM EST
We need to immediately stop the reckless and wasteful throwing of tax dollars at the education system, where the return for your dollar is abysmal. The private sector continually outperform the public sector and they do it for a lower cost, because they run the schools efficiently instead of acting as a black hole for tax dollars where they have no incentive to provide decent education and every incentive to hire administrators who spend their budget every year.Private education will work extremely well. The basic idea is that instead of throwing tax dollars at a public school, you let parents reward the good schools that satisfy their needs and meet their standards, by letting parents decide where to send their kids. You could introduce a voucher system which goes towards school fees, perhaps a few thousand dollars per student. The vouchers would go to the parents and not the schools. So all schools in the free market would have to compete against each other. End socialised education, it is a miserable failure and the amount of money the government throws at education DOUBLES every few years. It rations out education to those who happen to live near a particular school and the cost per student is just as high as a private school, except you don't ever see the bill for public schools, it is passed on to massive bureaucracy known as the Dept of Education, who always rubber stamp their budgets and spend tens of billions every year and second-rate education. 109 out of 123 found this valuable. Do you? |
Randall_Berger |
1. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 26 2008, 2:02 AM EST
Funny ... consistently, most of the top scoring schools in Victoria are State schools ... University High, Melbourne High, MacRobertson High, Canterbury Girls, Glen Waverly Secondary ... I don't know where you get this claptrap ... probably out of your a**e ... but even the private schools depend on the public dollar to exist. 5 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Posted Anonymously |
2. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 26 2008, 3:38 AM EST
No, the top performing schools are often private girls schools, catholic schools and Jewish schools.And the public schools have an abysmal average performance. 2 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andy38 |
3. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 27 2008, 1:35 AM EST
A formalized voucher system would lend more credence to this claim" but even the private schools depend on the public dollar to exist. " Which is rubbish if you look at the numbers, but provides the justification for the regulation & standardization of private schools to make them almost as bad as public schools. Of course even if there was any merit to that claim, it ignores the fact that parents who send there children to private schools are still paying for the public schools. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 27 2008, 4:00 AM EST
Vouchers!!!
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Randall_Berger |
5. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 27 2008, 4:05 AM EST
" And parents sending their kids to public schools are more than subsidising private schools. The Libs were dishing out money hand over fist to private schools, while public and religious schools struggled. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andy38 |
6. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 27 2008, 6:29 AM EST
"At the federal level yes, taking into account all funding no. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
Feb 28 2008, 8:33 PM EST
If you look at the taxpayer funding that schools receive and include funding from state government and federal government sources then its pretty even. And this division of funding is long standing and predates the Howard government. Of course it was always good for political point scoring and could be used to hoodwink those that know very little about government affairs. People like Randall were obviously easily duped.
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Posted Anonymously |
8. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
May 1 2008, 10:11 AM EDT
Private schools have the ability to pick and choose students. Of course their results LOOK good on the surface. Public selective schools though generally do outperform private schools - the previous thread is quite correct in that.Students from public schools perform measurably better than private school graduates when they hit uni and lose the spoonfeeding. Public schools are underfunded and do a great job when compared to parasitic private schools. The latter have every right to exist but as a private business should run without being propped up financially by the state. Users of public transport pay taxes as do those who use taxis and other forms of private transport. Why should the former be asked to subsidise the extravagant lifestyle of the latter. By all means send your kids to private schools, with my blessing, but stop asking me to pay for that luxury. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Andy38 |
9. RE: Privatise education, end the bureaucracy
May 2 2008, 9:36 AM EDT
"The latter have every right to exist but as a private business should run without being propped up financially by the state. Users of public transport pay taxes as do those who use taxis and other forms of private transport. Why should the former be asked to subsidise the extravagant lifestyle of the latter. By all means send your kids to private schools, with my blessing, but stop asking me to pay for that luxury."A private education is not extravagant, handing your children over to the government is irresponsible. Many people in private schools live anything but extravagant lifestyles. Do you find this valuable? |
