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1. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Feb 25 2008, 12:05 AM EST
And how do you think we will fare in a war against Japan? The use of military force against civilian persons is a step towards just that.
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2. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Feb 27 2008, 1:46 AM EST
Why is whaling our problem?
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3. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Feb 28 2008, 6:36 AM EST
Let the whales fight their own wars.
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4. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Feb 28 2008, 8:58 AM EST
"And how do you think we will fare in a war against Japan? The use of military force against civilian persons is a step towards just that."Have you been watching the news at all since WWII? Japan isn't even allowed by international law to deploy their forces outside their own island except for peacekeeping missions. If they were to so much as send a single trooper outside their allotted zone, the whole Western world would nuke them out of existence. 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 4 2008, 4:24 AM EST
"Have you been watching the news at all since WWII? Japan isn't even allowed by international law to deploy their forces outside their own island except for peacekeeping missions. If they were to so much as send a single trooper outside their allotted zone, the whole Western world would nuke them out of existence."You'd be referring to article nine of the Japanese constitution? If so that is not 'international law'. I also find it somewhat amusing that you think international law has any force at all let alone sufficient to provoke a 'nuking.' To the other anonymous: Japan lacks the capacity to make effective war on Australia (at the moment, they could certainly change that but the timeframe of these kinds of dopey incidents precludes that) They could, however, impose damaging trade sanctions. Of course this would hurt Japan as well. Anonymous #3 "Let the whales fight their own wars." V. Good, more to the point let Greenpeace fight their own wars, I'm sure the Japanese state could dispatch them handily. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 4 2008, 9:49 AM EST
Australia is not the US. We do not unilaterally go to war on other countries, we wait until the US or the UK tell us to go to war.It seems to me that the action the Rudd government is taking, to reform the IWC to monitor any research on whales to ensure that it is properly peer reviewed and carried out in a humanitarian way, is the best way to approach the problem. The Japanese response of recruiting small nations on to the IWC with bribes of aid might present an obstacle to the plan, but surely we can beat them at that game by doing our own recruiting. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 4 2008, 10:09 AM EST
While we're at it let's also declare war against Norway.
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8. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 6 2008, 7:01 AM EST
"Have you been watching the news at all since WWII? Japan isn't even allowed by international law to deploy their forces outside their own island except for peacekeeping missions. If they were to so much as send a single trooper outside their allotted zone, the whole Western world would nuke them out of existence."Wow - there is something seriously wrong with the way we educate people if you actually believe this to be true. As Andy38 rightly points out, the only thing restricting the deploment of Japanese forces is Japan. There is no special international law that denies Japan the rights of any other state. As for the whole Western world nuking them out of existence....this is just stupid. You're an idiot, mate. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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9. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 6 2008, 7:03 AM EST
"Australia is not the US. We do not unilaterally go to war on other countries, we wait until the US or the UK tell us to go to war.Japan is often accused of buying the support of countries at the IWC. Sadly, the Australian side of the debate is just as guilty and is similarly accused by Japan of buying support. In reality both sides 'recruti' ideological allies to the IWC 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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10. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 6 2008, 9:52 PM EST
Anyone got any recent & reliable stats on Whale population?I have heard conflicting accounts, but one of them said the numbers are far greater than they were 20 years ago (don't ask me to cite on this) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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11. RE: Use the Military to Crack Down on Whalers
Mar 7 2008, 9:43 AM EST
"Anyone got any recent & reliable stats on Whale population?Numbers have probably increased a bit during the last 20 years, since the Soviet Union is no more, but many species are still in the Endangered or Threatened categories. You can find the latest figures from Greenpeace here: http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/oceans/whale-defenders/whale-factsheets 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
